MrCar
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Let's not get off the subject, We Need To Conserve!
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Jarod13
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As long as our economy is slumping, I believe that we'll continue to conserve and keep prices dropping, even if OPEC cuts production later this month. We've been through this before and weathered through it, but we need to start increasing our output of both oil and alternative fuels. Otherwise, the roller coaster ride is going to be long and treacherous.
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laoloup
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More bailouts, less demand, until the consumer is bailed out...
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ardmoretoday
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Old News
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pitchingcoach
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Hasanyone here ever checked out the price of wind energy equipment for the home?
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farmersboy
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conserve
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farmersboy
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Conserve
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RochBear
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Even though I didn't vote for Pres. Elect Obama, I do have pitty on him.
He's really stuck. As soon as the economy starts to speed up, oil will skyrocket again. This will again tank the economy. So the problem is how to stimulate the economy without having oil (and thus diesel and Gas) go through the roof, and cause everyone to quit spending again, since they are spending all their money on gas.
Here's the only answer which makes sense. The Gov't spending to boost the economy needs to be buying wind/solar equipment. Business will respond and need to build these. This will create a lot of jobs which currently don't exist. As the economy grows, the Gov't will need to mandate that all Gov't vehicals be Electric. This (along with the bail out to the big 3) will bring us Electric cars. Now when our economy booms, we will have the extra electricity, and the electric cars, filling stations, ect..... This will decrease our demand for oil, while stimulating the economy.
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Lonewolftx
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Trying to control a free market system, eh?
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eaglev
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Well the left finally got what they wanted. They have been preaching for the last 6 years that we were in a resession to get back into power. Well it is here now. How are they going to get it going again.
Raise taxes on gas, and personal income, and business tax. Then we will be in a full blown depressioin!
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The consumer will continue to lack confidence as long as the media continues to be unable to report any kind of positive information. If they don't have a disaster, they don't have anything to report.
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mvosevich
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With savings lost, retirement accounts tanking, 401k's shrinking, and layoffs who can afford fuel at any price ?
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armstrmb
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So what they are saying is this: "Investors see that the U.S. is going into a period of lower employment (where formerly employed people will not be buying gasoline). Therefore, these investors are not willing to pay inflated prices for gasoline futures. Therefore, the price of gas goes down."
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GasholeMI
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The news reporters will like the glum news. They seem to thrive on adversity.
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Arktander
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What else would we expect to see?
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cdanielwyke
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Silver lining.
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AZDaisy
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Prices went up $.10 here. How does that work?
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rod1965
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Blame it on the usual suspects.
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Allstop
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Keep them dropping
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spunky4443
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Well the HIGH fuel prices, got us where we are now.!!!!!!!!
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niceguytx
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This will hopefully help the economy.
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tobasco
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This is one of the bright spots.
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21597
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I guess we could do what obamer said and check the air in our tires. Yep that oughta solve the problem
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REVLAW
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Cycles are interesting when viewed from a detached perspective. So are people ... each like an insect ... seeminly mindless ... yet also struggling for survival.
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kelsielee
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The information in this article seems to be old since they are talking about prices from a week ago.
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glazarides
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Oil... Keep on tumbling! It can bear falling up to another US$10/barrel.
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Off topic...
NedW: WT_?
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parsec
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Just don't feel sorry when you buy cheap gas. It's not our fault.
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purvismike
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Just about everything was down yesterday. Dow dropped over 650, S&P over 50, what the hey!!!
The biggest gains were made by those companies that will profit from the Stimulus Package for Highways, Roads & Bridges or The Infrastructure Sector.
Granite Construction
Caterpillar
Vulcan Materials
Martin Marietta
AECOM Tech.
Others that have gone up on this news are Energy Oriented Companies and should be sold:
Foster Wheeler
Shaw Group
Chicago bridge & Iron
Now if we could get a Stimulus Package for the Pickens Plan..........
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21597
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The gov can too screw this up, they are already talking about limiting drilling, stopping offshore drilling and raising gas tax
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cableman31
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Bug27 I whish you were right but we haven't hit bottom with unemployment yet and still have major stores and chains closing. It's going to get alot worse before it gets better.
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Thanatos1369
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It isn't a matter of the government getting in the middle of this whole fiasco, it's a matter of the general public acting like complete morons and trying to buy the biggest and baddest vehicle on the lot, to Hell with the carbon footprint they leave.
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Chazzer
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Keep on conserving!
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Sisipepe
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good
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danthemanvan
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let's don't stop conserving gas, no matter how low the price goes!
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21597
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Good and bad economies come and go. What worries me the most os the gov getting in the middle of it and screwing it up royaly
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salog
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that is what happens when people don't have money to spend.
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Palico
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I'll take anyway we can get lower energy cost for now. Old news.
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PenDoctrJD
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At least there is one upside to it.
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bug27
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We are probably over half way through the recession. Don't worry, be happy!
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NedW
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MightyDude
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so it's not all bad
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owatonnajeep
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We're in a recession
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spadilla
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I'm glad there is a silver lining to the "bad news".
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rylank
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The economy is in the tank but hey! if we had some money left we could afford the gas now...
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thedennis64
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The bear market continues with no end in sight.
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21597
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I paid 1.58 for gas yesterday.......the first time I ever paid that I was mad
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DST43
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Let's band together and make this thing work for us
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Lewis4622
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See, there is a silver lining.
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mrkel
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Old news, no new posting.
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ok
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